Cops & Psychics

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Nancy du Tertre is a lawyer and also a psychic detective. She wrote a column on a law enforcement web site that began this way:

“Several years ago, a retired New Jersey police chief told me this story.  He had gone to a police convention where there were several hundred police officers in attendance.  The speaker came out on the stage and asked for a showing of hands for how many police officers had ever worked with a psychic.  Almost everyone in the audience raised their hand.

“Then he asked how many would ever admit to it.  Only two or three hands went up.  To me, this indicates the existence of a problem in law enforcement that needs to be resolved once and for all.  It is time to stop being embarrassed about working with a psychic detective!”

You can read the rest of Nancy’s story here. Her comments reveal a reality about police investigations that the public often doesn’t know, largely because police investigators don’t want to talk about it. Interestingly, in the UK, professional standards of police investigations of missing persons are being revised to say that authorities should at least consider the advice of psychics when it is offered. The proposed addition to the ‘Authorised Professional Practice’ says: “Any information received from psychics should be evaluated in the context of the case.” But officers are cautioned it should not “become a distraction to the overall investigation and search strategy unless it can be verified.” Here’s the entire story from the on-line British publication The Independent.

That’s a long introduction to our experience working with police and psychic detectives. It’s an older post from 2010, but in correlation with the above info, it’s worth putting up again…and it includes an unusual synchronicity.

In 7 Secrets of Synchronicity, we wrote about an empath and friend, Renie Wiley, who sometimes worked with police on various cases, using her empathic abilities to provide information that the police couldn’t obtain any other way.  One night in later 1984, we accompanied Renie to a police station to observe her working on a missing child case, which we also wrote about in the book. But there were parts of the story that we didn’t include in the book because the section was on empaths and synchros and not on spirit contact. So here’s the full story:

On May 24, 1984, eight-year-old Christy Luna had walked to a store near her home in Green Acres, Florida, to buy some cat food and never returned. The police suspected foul play and Renie confirmed as much when she used Christy’s stuffed toys to tune in on the girl. In the book, we describe this in some detail. As an empath, she felt what Christy felt when her mother’s boyfriend used to beat up on her and reported the girl was deaf in one ear because of the beatings. Christy’s mother later confirmed this fact.

Later that night, we left the station with Renie and one of the police officers and drove around, following Renie’s directions until we arrived at a wooded area surrounded by a high barbed wire fence. Renie felt that Christy’s body was buried somewhere in the woods and that the mother’s boyfriend had killed her.

Skip ahead twenty-four years, to 2008. Los Angeles psychic Dennie Gooding called to tell us she would be visiting South Florida in March,  that she would be working on a missing person case and was there any chance we could all get together? It turned out she would be in town over the same weekend that other friends involved in the MU (mystical underground) would be visiting from around the country, so everyone agreed to meet at our place.

The day before the festivities, we were going through some old books, weeding out what we no longer needed. A check fell out of one of the books. It was dated 1986, made out to us for $50, repayment on a loan, and was signed Renie Wiley. We exclaimed about how strange it was, that the check had been inside the book all these years, and we wondered if Renie was trying to contact us and we just hadn’t been aware of it. In all the years since she had passed away, we’d never experienced any contact with her.

The night of the festivities (as we gathered with psychics, mediums, a past life therapist, a writer for the Simpsons), Dennie told us she’d been hired by  a police officer at the Palm Beach County sheriff’s department who worked in the cold cases division. When she began describing the case, Trish suddenly interrupted her.

“Is this the Christy Luna case?”

Dennie’s eyes widened with shock. “Yes.”

“You’re not going to believe this,” Rob said, and walked over to the drawer where we’d put Renie’s check, and brought it out. “Here’s how we know.”

It was as if Renie had reached out from the afterlife through the unsolved disappearance of Christy Luna and the psychic who had been hired to delve into it nearly a quarter of a century later. The synchronicities were remarkably layered and the contact occurred in an unusual way. Here are the facts:

Renie and Dennie didn’t know each other. Renie had long since passed away by the time we met Dennie through a Canadian astrologer who touted her psychic ability and gave us her contact information. If Trish hadn’t left a comment on his blog about his post on Mercury’s retrograde during the 2000 presidential election, they probably wouldn’t have communicated at all and we never would have met Dennie.

Rob had a reading with Dennie around 2002 or so. We gave her name to another friend, Nancy, who recommended Dennie to the wife of the police officer who eventually hired her to delve into the Christy Luna case.

Neither of us remember sticking Renie’s check inside a book. In fact, in 1986,  we were just starting out as writers, money was tight, and it’s likely we would have cashed the check as soon as we’d gotten it.

The cluster in this instance revolved around the unsolved disappearance of Christy Luna and the two psychics who, separated by nearly twenty-five years, worked on the case.

At any point in the past, different decisions might have been made and none of the events described here would have happened. So who was orchestrating all this, anyway? And that’s always the bottom line, isn’t it?

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9 Responses to Cops & Psychics

  1. natalie Thomas says:

    I can personally attest that the police are willing to listen.
    For my two cents worth, I believe some cases are not meant to be solved here on human level , because there are soul lessons to be worked out because of them. Not just between the perp and the victim, but for the benefit of many ( group consciousness) . As I am writing this, a synchro arises – tomorrow our school is celebrating “Day for Daniel’ in honour of a beautiful boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Queensland. Tomorrow, I am planting a red hibiscus in his name ( in my garden dedicated to these children) and have been thwarted every time I try to get out in the garden until now. Daniel’s parents have been instrumental in raising awareness nationally, in regard to child safety since they lost their beautiful son.

    Day for Daniel is just one way they have achieved this. If it wasn’t for Daniel’s death and the public outrage and fear around it, consciousness would never have been raised to the level it has been. Of course it all is due to his remarkable parents, for carrying the torch in his honour, in order to protect all our babies, but Daniel and his murderer ( as souls ) kicked it all off.

  2. c.j. cannon says:

    Yes, law enforcement does indeed often have ‘psychic consultants’ on an on ‘call basis’, although the psychic also contacts the particular agency whenever something
    needs to be shared. It’s been my experience that the law enforcement gives the consultant an AKA as a means of protecting the assisting psychic, as well as appointing a specific law enforcement officer or agent to work as the ‘contact person’.
    Many folks believe this is simply a TV-type scenario, but it isn’t. It occurs in real life much more often than the general public realizes, as more and more crimes are helping to be resolved by persons who are able to perceive beyond the five physical senses….much like the trained canines…..and frequently psychometry is used by the psychics, as it is by the canines. It’s an expanding service that many psychics are able to provide as the world is finally beginning to accept the existence of such abilities.

  3. Laurence Zankowski says:

    Trish,
    Robb,

    Following Lauren Raines’s posting: That was my thought as i read this, though not mentioned, it seems that the Luna case was unresloved all these years. As i was reading this last night, i remembered a posting Joe McMoneagle had written about chasing down a killer he and an unnamed partner were working on. It seemed to me , i am inferring here, that this character was always one step ahead of Joe and his partner. I do not know if he was able to bring this being/ character in. We in this synchrosecrets family of commentors know of Joe’s skill set, so this led to another thought, a ” What if ” as it were.

    What if this is all a cat and mouse game played across the tableau / tapestry of space and time? That there are aspects to these missing cases that are outside our 3d ( 4d if you include time) humanness? That our perceptive capabilities are truly limited by our humanness. That a perceptive capability lies beyond our mind while we are embodied.
    A mystery to be sure.

    Or, maybe like the sleeping dervishes, a group dreaming is needed. That these cases really involve not just a victim and a perpetrator, but a tribe or pod or herd or any metaphor you can think of that points to multiple minds. Sort of like the movie the “Dark Crystal “.

    Obviously i am really, REALLY, taken with this idea of out of bounds mind perception and how we in our human condition can approach, get a glimpse of, how to re activate this innate though seemingly out of reach perceptive ability.

    If i am not making sense here, it is because i am still working these ideas out in my head.

    Be well
    Laurence

    • Rob and Trish says:

      I love your ideas, Laurence. The Christy Luna case was mystifying from the beginning. We drove around with our psychic friend Renie the night she did the reading at the Green Acres PD on the missing girl. It was shocking to see her read the girl’s toys, the things she handled. At one point, Renie winced a pressed her hands to the sides of her heads. She felt Christy had been hit in the head by the mother’s boyfriend, a blow that had killed her. We later drove around in driving rain as Renie struggled to get a fix on where the boyfriend had buried her. The field she pinpointed was the same on Dennie pinpointed all those years later. There are some heinous cases like this one that can be solved only through those outside forces – the energy of the tribe, group dreaming, remove viewing.

      • Laurence Zankowski says:

        This goes along the lines of The Scole Experiment. A group intent meeting at the same place over a period of time. ( this might have to do with making the space energized or magnetic ).

        Group trance states are probably the order of the day, with some sort of Hemi Sync / SAM audio induction.

        Calling Skip Atwater

        Be well

        Laurence

  4. lauren raine says:

    Has there ever been justice for the child? Such a tragic story.

    • Rob and Trish says:

      The Christy Luna case is still open. A cold case. We personally feel that Renie – and, later, Dennie -nailed it, but the girl’s body has never been found.

  5. Tom says:

    I find this entire dynamic so interesting. Law enforcement personnel – from the local to the federal level – call on psychics more often than they admit. And sometimes, because of the psychic input, they catch the bad dudes.

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